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Helping to secure the blessings of liberty
to

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ourselves and our posterity. This is the
Constitution

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Study on the American Outlaw Network. With
your

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host, Paul Engel.

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People are going crazy over artificial
intelligence.

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Now, some of those fears are legitimate,
but

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many seem to not have a basis in

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fact reality. Now, what should we the
people

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do? What should we ask our employees in

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Washington, D.C. to do? Hello there,

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everyday Americans. Paul Engel here with
the Constitution

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Study, where we read and study the
Constitution

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teacher action generation before glad you
could join

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me today. Now, as I've mentioned multiple
times

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here, I am a retired computer

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geek. I spent 30 years working in IT,

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20 of them working in data centers. I

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have worked with some of the early, early,

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early artificial intelligence uh

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teams, uh, mostly from a hardware
standpoint,

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but I know enough of how this works

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to get a general idea. It's why I

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refer to that not so much as artificial

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intelligence, but imitation intelligence,
because that's really what

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it's designed to do. It's designed to
imitate

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human intelligence. In fact, in the in the

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AI world, the most uh uh famous um

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artificial intelligence test that I'm
aware of, it's

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called the Turing test. It was named after

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Alan Turing, the the you know famous

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mathematician that broke the Enigma cipher
during World

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War II. And he said, if you want

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to know if a system has reached artificial

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intelligence, you have a person
communicating with

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the entity through a terminal, right? Not

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directly, obviously. And and if they can't
tell,

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if after I think I forgot how much

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time, they cannot tell whether or not it's

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human or in a machine, then that if

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that's a machine, it's reached artificial
intelligence. That

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was the the test. In other words, it's

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designed to imitate human intelligence.

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I also know that there's some really great

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movies out there around this thing. You
have

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the Terminator movies, the Matrix movies
that deal

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with a question of artificial intelligence
and humanity.

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I mean, you go to like uh Star

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Trek Next Generation and the Android data,
a

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form of artificial intelligence. So we
have this

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the reality of the world, and we have

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the the the fiction of the world. And

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I think sometimes, well, I think sometimes

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we the people are blurring those lines.
And

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of course, Congress is running pell mell

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headlong into this gap, whether they're
needed or

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not. Now, I don't think any of them

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have actually considered whether or not
the constitutionality

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delegates them the power or not. Um, but

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they they they they're they're they're
taking this

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seriously, at least they think they do.
Uh,

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listen to uh Jay Bur Jay Olbernoti, uh

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Congressman Obernoti. So this is not a
sudden

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pause sales at all. It's been very
deliberate.

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And it's not just been in the House,

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then the Senate. You have Senators Holly
and

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Blumenthal. Both they they've got
bipartisan

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legislation to uh regulate AI, as

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Senator Blumenthal said. The idea is

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that we cannot rely on voluntary
oversight.

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There has to be some method of review

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that involves enforcement. But the problem

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being, I guess he forgot that he took

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an oath to support the Constitution, which
does

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not grant Congress the ability to regulate
whatever

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it thinks is important or whatever they
think

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needs enforcement. So they can regulate

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the interstate commerce of AI, but they
have

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no legal power to report to regulate AI

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itself. That's not that it's going to stop

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them. Uh, listen to the words of Senator

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Kennedy uh talking on the floor about his

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AI kill switch bill. We've got this risk

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out there that we know is real

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of one of these models becoming the
Terminator.

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Now you may think it's real, and there

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may be a lot of talk about it

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being real, but um I've seen no evidence

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that it is actually real.

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Right? There's a lot of hype and there's

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a lot of craziness. And I'm gonna get

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into some more of that as we go

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through the the episode, but I've seen no

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evidence of actual terminator i

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matrix type levels. What you see are,

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well, I I I don't want to open

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the the package too early. I've got some

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couple stories I want to get to that'll

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help explain this. But this idea, we've we

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when we talk about AI, we're people are

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thinking Terminator and the Matrix, and
they

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think that we're we're right around the
corner,

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just a few more years, and voila, it's

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gonna be just like in the movies.

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Nothing in real life is just like in

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the movies. Movies will emulate life, but
life

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emulating movies never as accurate as a
lot

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of people would think.

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And part of me wonders, there have been

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stories, and I've talked about a couple of

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them here, about uh China and other
foreign

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actors using uh bots to in

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social media to kind of ramp up fervor

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and fear of AI and things. So when

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uh Senator Bernie Sanders introduced a
bill called

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the Artificial Intelligence Data Center
Moratorium Act,

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uh uh again, you know, I worked in

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data center for 20 years. They do consume

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a lot of electricity, and that is a

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a problem. They do not consume huge the

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these anywhere near the amount of water
some

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of these fear mongers have been promoting,
but

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that hasn't stopped a sitting senator

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from saying we have to have a moratorium

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on data centers, even though they've got
no

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legal power, nothing in the constitution
authorizes them

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to say what can and cannot be built

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in a state. I quoted you uh

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Representative uh Obernote earlier. Uh,
he,

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along with Representative uh Lori Trahan,
have

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introduced the for Frontier Risk
Oversight, National

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Transparency, Independent Evaluation and
Reporting, or the Frontier

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Act. How much time do they spend on

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these stupid names? The idea is to provide

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federal oversight on what they refer to as

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frontier artificial intelligence. In other
words, developing uh

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our artificial intelligence. Again, where
in the Constitution

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is Congress given the authority, is the
United

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States given authority to oversee

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development of a product? The answer is
nowhere.

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You can regulate interstate commerce of
the product,

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but that's it. So this would just be

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another and a long list of federal
legislation

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designed to violate the Constitution, uh,

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infringe on your rights, and to pretend
that

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the federal government is the master of
all

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things. Oh, yeah. And by the way, it

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would empower an almost constitutional

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department, the Department of Commerce, to
uh

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actually

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issue orders to suspend the development of
an

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AI model if some politician thinks it's a

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threat. A politician or a bureaucrat, many
of

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them don't even understand artificial
intelligence. Oh my

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god, you got Bernie Sanders, was it uh

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uh um uh Senator Kennedy, who thinks we're

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about to have the Terminator. Do you think

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he's going to see that as a threat

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and try to shut it down? Whether it's

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real or not.

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Another bipartisan bill called the
Resources for

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Evaluating and Documenting, or Read AI
Models

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Act, it tells wants to order the National

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Institutes of Standards and Technology to
develop a

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template for uh uh uh information

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to accompany these AI models. In other
words,

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they want the NIST to have set the

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standards. They want the federal
government in control

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of these models. Now, again, AI

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is to me, it's imitation intelligence.
I've seen

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no evidence that AI is alive.

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We tend to anthropomorphize it, we tend to

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give it human characteristics because,
well,

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it's easier for us to understand. It's how

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we refer to these, it's how we relate

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to these, especially after all of the

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fiction, yes, fiction about

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the powers and capabilities of these
artificial intelligence

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models. Now, let me back up because I

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tried to explain this to somebody the
other

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day. Why do I call it imitation
intelligence?

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Well, you have to understand how
artificial intelligence

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works. You've heard the term large
language model.

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That's really the quote-unquote artificial
intelligence.

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And really what it's designed to do, it's

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more like the computers on Star Trek,
right?

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You talk to it, it goes off and

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does something for you, and then responds.
Right?

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So that's literally how AI works. You you

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you start with a large language mount
where

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you talk to the model or you write

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to the model, this is what I want.

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It understands the language, turns that
into things

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that need to get done, searches for
information

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for you, and then responds. Now, the other

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option is what's called an agent, which is

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merely a

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prompt that gets repeated over and over
and

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over again. So if you tell um,

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if you want to say artificial
intelligence, uh

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show me the stock prices that

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have gone up the by the greatest, the

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top five growing stock prices and the top

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five failing stock prices. All right, show
me

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the stocks that have gone up the most,

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down the most, five of each. And it

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responds. That's an interaction. That's a
prompt.

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Now, if you say, okay, set up an

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agent that every morning at 6 a.m., I

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want you to go find those top five

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and bottom five stocks and email that to

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me. That's an agent. That's I don't have

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to keep asking it, it's going to do

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it for me over and over again
automatically.

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Right? Not rocket science, ladies and
gentlemen. But

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again, it's just going out and gathering
information

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and returning. Now, I suppose if you were

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to take AI and put it in

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a robot, it could physically do something.
We're

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not quite there yet. But again, it's going

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to be limited to what the robot can

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do. And of course, artificial intelligence
is used

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in facial recognition and license plate
readers and

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even search engines nowadays to make your
searches

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more efficient. So again, we have all of

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these fears, I think, in part based on

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a misunderstanding in a belief. It's kind
of

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the same way that uh people believe that

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if you uh if you shoot someone with

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a 44-pagnum, the most powerful handgun in
the

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world, according to Dirty Harry, you shoot
someone

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in the chest, they're gonna fly back 10

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feet. Physics says that's impossible.

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People still believe that because they've
seen it

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in the movies, and that's the part that

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truly concerns me. And it's

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not just legislation. Josh Holly set up
another

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kangaroo court. Yes, these are kangaroo
courts.

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There's nothing in the Constitution that
gives Congress

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investigatory powers or oversight powers.
They have

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legislative powers. The legislative power
is there. They

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can decide uh to write legislation, they
can

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decide to spend federal money, but within
the

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bounds of the Constitution. That hasn't
stopped, and

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again, it's not just just Holly, it's been

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it's partisan on both sides from using
their

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bully pulpits to basically run these

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kangaroo courts for political purposes.
And the latest

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are uh that that Mr. Holly's brought out

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is the automatic license plate readers.
Now, I

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have concerns about these ALPRs.

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My concern isn't so much about the ALPRs,

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my concern is access to the data and

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how that data is used. But then again,

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I've read and studied the Constitution for
something

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like 15 years now. Uh actually getting
closer

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to 20. Isn't that scary? Uh, but uh,

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you know, I understand the powers actually
delegated

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to the United States. Now, Mr.

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Hawley, Senator Hawley, has opened this
investigation into

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incidents where uh he says flock

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safety cameras and their access to uh to

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American data uh have led to incidents
where

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Americans were falsely accused of crimes
after the

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flock cameras processed their information.
That is a

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misrepresentation of what happened, right?
I've covered

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several of them here. I've been looking at

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some more. I tried to uh to track

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down another one uh just yesterday. It is

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not the flock cameras that have uh

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falsely accused anyone. It is the human

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beings pretending that these flock cameras
are

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actually intelligent and that uh

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what they're saying is gospel truth.

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I covered one, I think it was up

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in Minnesota or Wisconsin, where a guy was

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pulled over and detained for half an hour

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because a flock camera had a partial match

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to his license plate. And not one human

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being actually looked at the license plate

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versus the warrant to see if it was

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the same vehicle. Not a single human
being.

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I had another one where a gentleman was

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uh uh accused, was arrested and accused

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of trying to kidnap a child, a young

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child, because a facial recognition

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off of a bad photo, a photo that

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didn't meet the quality requirements to do
facial

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recognition, was used for facial
recognition, which came

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up with several faces, one of which was

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this person. They said it was a 93%

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match, and the cops ignored all the

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exculpatory data. They actually went, they
ignored it,

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they applied for a warrant, hiding the
information

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that this guy probably was innocent to get

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a warrant to arrest him. This is not

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AI's fault. This is not license plate
readers,

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this is not facial recognition, these are
problems

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of human beings. And now we have

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Senator Halley going after Flock and

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Axon and Motorola and all these companies
that

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have developed this technology as if it's
the

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technology that caused the problem. This

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is no different than a cop driving down

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the road, seeing a license plate,
remembering there

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was an alert about that license plate, but

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he got the numbers wrong. He transposed
two

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of the numbers and made a mistake.

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Or he saw a face, it kind of

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looked the same, and he so he thought

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that was a suspect, but it didn't exactly

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match the description. There were other
mitigating factors

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that the cop ignored. So the problem

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here is not the license plate readers or

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the facial recognition, it's the human
beings using

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the data and thinking, like Senator
Kennedy, it's

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like the Terminator, right? The little
pop-up, the

00:14:35.040 --> 00:14:37.040
little overhead say, Oh, yep, that's the
person,

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it's 100% match. We got him, go get

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him. As if that is probable cause,

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which it's not. And to me, that's the

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problem. And since people are focusing not
on

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the actual problem, the human being

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taking the the output of a computer and

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pretending it's gospel truth. Right?
They're

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not dealing with that. They're dealing
with, well,

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how dare you actually collect data from us

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in per that that's publicly accessible?

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I mean, what's what's next? Uh uh, you're

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gonna sue your neighbor because the ring
camera

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took your picture when you walked up to

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ring the doorbell?

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My concerns here are always has so far

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been all on the human side. Yes, there

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are issues with the technology, but those
issues

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don't become problems until the human

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stops being human and simply

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becomes a a mechanism for the

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artificial intelligence, a a robot for the

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artificial intelligence. So, Mr. Kennedy,
Senator

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Kennedy, if you think that uh we're all

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gonna see the terminator, it's not the
terminator,

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it's the human being simply being
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Only when the government owns to the
people

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with the member of the government.

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And there are a lot of people that

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are very upset with Congress, or in this

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case the Senate, because, well, uh

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they went on on, they went on recess

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without actually doing something to ban
these

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AI technologies, the very same AI
technologies that

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are finding medical solutions, that are

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improving manufacturing, that are
improving your your

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search engines. They want them banned
because somebody's

00:21:41.520 --> 00:21:44.560
convinced them that it's the Terminator.
It's Skynet

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all over again. And again, this is there

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are several uh prominent engineers and

00:21:50.320 --> 00:21:53.440
researchers that say they're warning AI is
gonna

00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:56.320
take over the world. It's gonna eventually
wake

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up and kill all of humanity. They call

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it the singularity. It's like, oh my God,

00:22:00.240 --> 00:22:03.120
we're all gonna die. They're literally, I
think

00:22:03.120 --> 00:22:04.800
they saw this in the Terminator.

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But I saw an article, again, for this

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one came originally in the Daily News, uh,

00:22:09.760 --> 00:22:12.960
Daily Caller News Foundation, pointing out
that centers

00:22:13.040 --> 00:22:15.600
would not commit to banning AI
superintelligence

00:22:15.600 --> 00:22:18.880
outright, despite warnings uh uh from

00:22:18.880 --> 00:22:21.680
big tech CEOs that that AI is gonna

00:22:21.680 --> 00:22:23.680
kill us all. Hang on to that. I

00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:25.600
still got something. I'm kind of setting,
I'm

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setting you up for something in a good

00:22:27.520 --> 00:22:29.280
way, right? I've got some news that that's

00:22:29.280 --> 00:22:31.120
gonna put some of this into context. But

00:22:31.120 --> 00:22:33.520
again, people are running around like like
chickens

00:22:33.520 --> 00:22:35.120
with their heads cut off. It's it's you

00:22:35.120 --> 00:22:37.120
know, oh my god, the sky is falling,

00:22:37.280 --> 00:22:39.760
the sky is falling. Um, AI is gonna

00:22:39.760 --> 00:22:42.320
come and kill us all. And of course,

00:22:42.400 --> 00:22:44.960
in this one article, Senator Kennedy, who
again

00:22:45.040 --> 00:22:47.280
he wants a kill switch built into AI,

00:22:47.520 --> 00:22:49.600
he wants the government to mandate a kill

00:22:49.680 --> 00:22:51.840
switch be put in. Even he's not

00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:55.680
prepared to support banning AI.

00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:58.480
Um, he said, he told the Daily Call

00:22:58.480 --> 00:23:00.240
and News Foundations, no, I'm not going to

00:23:00.240 --> 00:23:02.240
support that right now. I'll support a
light

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touch system of rules that we all agree

00:23:04.080 --> 00:23:06.640
to, and hopefully China does too. And that

00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:09.280
looks like somebody is designing them on
purpose.

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That's an interesting point. So we're
talking about

00:23:12.640 --> 00:23:15.440
preventing the United States from using
AI, but

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there's nothing we can do to prevent other

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nations from doing so. China, Russia,

00:23:20.800 --> 00:23:24.000
anywhere else. So I have to ask you

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it's the same, you know, if if um

00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:30.000
if the United States is prevented from
developing

00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:33.200
AI, but other nations with well, let's
just

00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:36.400
say a less valued view of humanity

00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:39.840
are prepared to go forward. Are we really

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protecting ourselves by doing this?

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Let me put this in a context that

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many of us, especially those of my age,

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would would recognize. Imagine it's the

00:23:49.360 --> 00:23:52.080
1950s or the 1960s, and

00:23:52.080 --> 00:23:55.120
scientists from around the world are
saying, you

00:23:55.120 --> 00:23:58.560
know what? Nuclear weapons can literally
destroy all

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life on earth. They could kill every human

00:24:01.120 --> 00:24:03.120
being, they could kill every mammal, they
could

00:24:03.120 --> 00:24:05.920
kill all life on earth. Therefore,

00:24:06.320 --> 00:24:09.440
the United States must ban the development
of

00:24:09.440 --> 00:24:12.400
nuclear weapons because it's dangerous.

00:24:13.200 --> 00:24:15.200
Now, I grew up during the Cold War.

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I was born in the early 60s. I

00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:20.960
grew up with Duck and Cover, I grew

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up with with uh The Day After and

00:24:23.200 --> 00:24:25.360
other movies that talked about, you know,
what

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would happen uh after a nuclear exchange.

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I grew up with those fears and concerns.

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And you know the one thing that I

00:24:34.000 --> 00:24:37.360
never understood was why

00:24:37.760 --> 00:24:40.160
were the people that said that one side

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should unilaterally disarm themselves

00:24:43.600 --> 00:24:45.920
on the hope and prayer that the other

00:24:45.920 --> 00:24:49.200
side would do the same. Yes, mutually

00:24:49.200 --> 00:24:52.240
assured destruction was mad, it was crazy.

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It was the only thing we had at

00:24:54.320 --> 00:24:57.200
the time. It was our only

00:24:57.520 --> 00:25:00.880
option to prevent nuclear arm again.

00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.480
The idea that you know someone is gonna

00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:06.960
be they're gonna think twice about
launching a

00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.920
nuclear weapon because they knew the other
side

00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:11.520
had more than enough weapons to wipe them

00:25:11.520 --> 00:25:14.640
out. And again, it's crazy. I agree, it's

00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:17.840
crazy, but it's the best thing we had.

00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:20.960
And guess what? It worked. How do I

00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:24.400
know that? We're still here. We survived
the

00:25:24.400 --> 00:25:27.360
Cold War, we're still dealing with
concerns of

00:25:27.360 --> 00:25:30.400
nuclear of nuclear uh uh weapons, not to

00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:32.960
mention nuclear energy, but we're still
here. So

00:25:33.040 --> 00:25:36.320
I have to ask you, why in

00:25:36.320 --> 00:25:39.360
a in an Armageddon type scenario like art

00:25:39.680 --> 00:25:42.800
like these artificial intelligence people
are pushing, why

00:25:42.800 --> 00:25:46.240
would we unilaterally disarm and let our
opposition

00:25:46.560 --> 00:25:49.120
be the only people with that capability?

00:25:49.440 --> 00:25:50.080
Why?

00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:53.280
And again, you've got these ideas, the the

00:25:53.360 --> 00:25:55.200
the the senators that are pushing, and I

00:25:55.200 --> 00:25:57.760
think uh you've got like mentioned Sanders
and

00:25:57.760 --> 00:26:00.720
uh uh Greg Cesar that are saying we

00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.760
have to ban artificial intelligence
superintelligence.

00:26:04.800 --> 00:26:07.840
Artificial superintelligence is a mythical
being.

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I'm not saying it could never happen, but

00:26:12.320 --> 00:26:14.480
it I I personally I don't think it

00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:15.200
can happen.

00:26:16.320 --> 00:26:16.960
Why?

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Well, artificial superintelligence is

00:26:21.840 --> 00:26:24.080
the idea that there's an AI that actually

00:26:24.080 --> 00:26:27.520
becomes more intelligent than humans.
Right? Now,

00:26:27.600 --> 00:26:29.120
I'm not saying they can't be faster than

00:26:29.120 --> 00:26:32.240
humans, they they most definitely are. But
there

00:26:32.240 --> 00:26:34.880
are fundamental limitations to what we
call AI.

00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.520
It's why I call it AI. It's imitation,

00:26:37.600 --> 00:26:39.920
it's trying to imitate our intelligence.

00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.120
So, you know, we even when you look

00:26:43.120 --> 00:26:45.840
at things like uh AI music, right? Oh,

00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:48.960
see, it can create music. It's creating
music

00:26:49.120 --> 00:26:52.320
not on its own, but by using the

00:26:52.320 --> 00:26:54.800
skills and tools that humans have taught
it.

00:26:55.680 --> 00:26:57.840
What makes what is music? How do you

00:26:57.840 --> 00:27:00.720
define music? What is good music? What do

00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:03.920
people like versus what they dislike?
Right? So

00:27:04.080 --> 00:27:06.560
this this idea of of an artificial super

00:27:06.800 --> 00:27:10.000
an AI superintelligence is hypothetical

00:27:10.320 --> 00:27:10.960
at best.

00:27:12.400 --> 00:27:14.480
Now, again, a lot of these AI systems,

00:27:14.560 --> 00:27:17.120
these AI developers, they're claiming,
hey, we're just

00:27:17.120 --> 00:27:19.200
around the corner because well, it gives
them

00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:20.480
power and prestige. I want to get to

00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:23.200
more on that later, but no one has

00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.240
demonstrated anything near an

00:27:26.240 --> 00:27:29.520
artificial superintelligence. But Paul,
it's it it's

00:27:29.600 --> 00:27:32.720
it's writing papers and books by taking
information

00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:35.040
found on the web, much of it developed

00:27:35.040 --> 00:27:36.640
by human beings, some of it developed by

00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:39.440
by by bots, which is another interesting
thing.

00:27:39.600 --> 00:27:42.880
So if you have a artificial intelligence
training

00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:46.240
another artificial intelligence, see Paul,
then

00:27:46.400 --> 00:27:48.800
it's gonna just rise, but there's nothing
to

00:27:48.800 --> 00:27:51.680
add value to it. See, it it it

00:27:51.760 --> 00:27:54.160
there's something that that in in the
human

00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:54.640
nature

00:27:55.520 --> 00:27:57.600
that can look at something and then add

00:27:57.600 --> 00:27:59.440
value to it. What do I mean?

00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.880
You take a bunch of rock, right? Silica

00:28:03.120 --> 00:28:05.440
rock, and you look at it and say,

00:28:05.600 --> 00:28:06.960
Well, what can I do with this rock?

00:28:07.040 --> 00:28:08.160
Well, I can grind it up and I

00:28:08.160 --> 00:28:09.840
can put it into things, but it takes

00:28:09.840 --> 00:28:12.640
something special, it takes a certain
spark to

00:28:12.640 --> 00:28:14.560
say, you know what I can do? I

00:28:14.560 --> 00:28:17.280
can turn that into a transistor. And then

00:28:17.360 --> 00:28:19.680
what can I do with that transistor? Well,

00:28:19.760 --> 00:28:21.920
I could make radios and I could make

00:28:21.920 --> 00:28:23.920
other electronics. And you know what I
could

00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:25.200
do is I could put it on an

00:28:25.200 --> 00:28:27.200
integrated circuit chip and make it even
more

00:28:27.200 --> 00:28:29.200
powerful, and then I could turn it into

00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.280
this computing technology.

00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:35.600
There's something unique about the human

00:28:35.600 --> 00:28:37.840
being, about being a human being, that

00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:39.520
AI

00:28:40.880 --> 00:28:43.680
AI can't create something new, they can
simply

00:28:43.680 --> 00:28:46.160
take what they've already known and
extrapolate what

00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:48.800
might happen. But that spark of an idea

00:28:48.800 --> 00:28:51.200
of what can I do with this, I

00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:52.960
haven't seen it. And that's why I keep

00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:56.400
saying artificial super is still
hypothetical. No

00:28:56.400 --> 00:28:58.080
one's come up with it, no one's even

00:28:58.080 --> 00:29:01.040
close to uh believing it. But it's being

00:29:01.040 --> 00:29:04.080
promoted as if, like I said, the
Terminator

00:29:04.080 --> 00:29:06.640
is right around the corner.

00:29:07.440 --> 00:29:09.520
But the only place it really is, is

00:29:09.520 --> 00:29:12.960
on Netflix. Now, Leslie, we talk a

00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:14.320
lot about what's going on. What about the

00:29:14.320 --> 00:29:17.360
president? Well, Trump says he's trying to
form

00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:20.720
he that he's gonna form an artificial
intelligence

00:29:20.720 --> 00:29:23.360
force. So he's already added space force,
he

00:29:23.360 --> 00:29:26.000
now wants to have an AI force. And

00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:27.600
again, this goes back to what I was

00:29:27.600 --> 00:29:30.960
saying before. Why, if we believe there's
going

00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.280
to be a race in AI and that

00:29:33.280 --> 00:29:36.240
AI could actually harm us, why would we

00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:39.280
voluntarily disarm ourselves? Why would we

00:29:39.440 --> 00:29:42.080
walk up to a gang of armed thugs

00:29:42.080 --> 00:29:43.920
and take off all of our weapons, our

00:29:43.920 --> 00:29:46.800
cell phones, and simply surrender? That's
an interesting

00:29:46.800 --> 00:29:48.560
thing. So he wants to create an AI

00:29:48.560 --> 00:29:49.200
force.

00:29:50.560 --> 00:29:52.480
And as he points out, he doesn't want

00:29:52.480 --> 00:29:55.680
to stifle, he doesn't want to cripple

00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:58.640
AI. He wants the growth, but he wants

00:29:58.640 --> 00:30:01.040
the tools to protect us against bad
actors.

00:30:01.200 --> 00:30:02.640
In other words, he wants to use our

00:30:02.640 --> 00:30:06.000
existing criminal and civil justice system
in

00:30:06.000 --> 00:30:08.960
order to fight the crimes created
perpetuated by

00:30:08.960 --> 00:30:12.240
people using AI. Right now, here's the

00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.520
interesting thing, though. I find this he

00:30:15.520 --> 00:30:18.000
plans to hire an AI czar.

00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:22.000
And he said only high IQ

00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:23.360
individuals need apply.

00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:28.000
In other words, his AI czar is not

00:30:28.000 --> 00:30:29.200
going to be an AI.

00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:32.800
His AI czar is going to be a

00:30:32.800 --> 00:30:34.080
human being.

00:30:35.280 --> 00:30:38.000
Ooh. Doesn't that kind of say, well, we

00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:39.760
were, you know, we've got this, this uh

00:30:39.840 --> 00:30:42.960
uh, you know, we're worried about
superintelligence. We

00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.840
we need a human being helping us advise

00:30:45.840 --> 00:30:48.000
what to deal with this as we defend

00:30:48.000 --> 00:30:51.200
ourselves against uh the AI actions of

00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:51.680
others.

00:30:52.800 --> 00:30:54.880
You know, it seems to me like it's

00:30:54.960 --> 00:30:58.400
uh this is cybersecurity writ large. We're
gonna

00:30:58.400 --> 00:31:00.400
take cybersecurity or we're gonna expand
it into

00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:02.800
the AI space because that's really where
we've

00:31:02.800 --> 00:31:05.200
seen a lot of the problems with AI

00:31:05.200 --> 00:31:07.120
from other actors is um

00:31:08.320 --> 00:31:11.600
manipulating the the the ideas

00:31:11.600 --> 00:31:14.880
of that Americans have through social
engineering, through

00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:18.080
social media, and these other tools. I

00:31:18.080 --> 00:31:20.320
mean, think about uh how many memes have

00:31:20.320 --> 00:31:23.360
you seen where a a famous person is

00:31:23.360 --> 00:31:26.320
obviously doing something they'd never
actually done, but

00:31:26.320 --> 00:31:28.080
AI makes it look that way. You know,

00:31:28.160 --> 00:31:30.800
that's that's a concern, right? Imagine
it's not

00:31:30.800 --> 00:31:33.920
just a famous person. Imagine um someone
creates

00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:36.800
an AI-based video of you committing a
crime

00:31:36.960 --> 00:31:38.640
and the police simply come and arrest you

00:31:38.640 --> 00:31:40.400
for it because there's their evidence.
Well, we

00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.880
need tools against that. So I'm I kind

00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:44.720
of understand where Trump is going. I
don't

00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:46.160
know that I agree with how he's going

00:31:46.160 --> 00:31:48.880
about doing it, but I uh we do

00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.840
have to have laws based in

00:31:52.320 --> 00:31:55.760
our constitutional process, right? States
need to have

00:31:55.760 --> 00:31:58.000
laws. Uh, the federal government has to
deal

00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:00.960
with commerce issues and and and foreign

00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.000
relations about these AIs,

00:32:04.320 --> 00:32:07.440
but uh I'm not prepared to turn over

00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.720
my sovereignty to a government simply
because

00:32:10.720 --> 00:32:13.840
they're trying to scare people about these
AIs.

00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.520
And if you think that different political
groups

00:32:17.520 --> 00:32:19.680
are not going to use this attempt to

00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:22.880
regulate to protect themselves, I have uh
some

00:32:22.880 --> 00:32:25.840
news for you. So the American Federation
of

00:32:25.840 --> 00:32:29.040
Teachers have joined up with Microsoft to
present

00:32:29.040 --> 00:32:31.680
what they call a national AI safety and

00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:35.120
privacy standard. Now, they claim they
want

00:32:35.120 --> 00:32:37.760
legally enforceable protections to ensure
safety of students,

00:32:37.840 --> 00:32:40.720
families, and educators. However, you look
at the

00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.520
history of the American Federation of
Teachers, it

00:32:43.520 --> 00:32:46.320
seems more like uh they're trying to
protect

00:32:46.320 --> 00:32:47.680
their own jobs.

00:32:48.720 --> 00:32:51.600
And the idea is Microsoft says that this

00:32:51.600 --> 00:32:54.400
policy basically it's going to set up a

00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.880
set of rules, set of policies that um

00:32:56.880 --> 00:32:59.040
will, I guess, they prevent AI from taking

00:32:59.040 --> 00:33:02.320
over a classroom, right? Imagine a
classroom

00:33:02.320 --> 00:33:05.040
where instead of a uh uh of a

00:33:05.040 --> 00:33:07.520
teacher in front, you've got a big screen

00:33:07.520 --> 00:33:10.160
TV with an art with an AI face

00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:13.840
and using artificial intelligence to
teach. That's what

00:33:13.840 --> 00:33:16.160
they're I mean, I understand the logic.
That's

00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:18.720
what the Federation American AFT is about,
is

00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.480
protecting the jobs of teachers.

00:33:21.760 --> 00:33:25.120
So, yeah, that kind of makes sense.
Similarly,

00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:28.480
the uh the American Federation of
Government

00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:31.920
Employees, they have their own uh

00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:34.400
uh uh things they're looking at. They they

00:33:34.560 --> 00:33:37.600
they've published a model contract
language to again

00:33:37.840 --> 00:33:40.320
protect them from artificial

00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:43.600
intelligence. Now, again, while you would

00:33:43.600 --> 00:33:47.040
expect uh a government uh labor union to

00:33:47.040 --> 00:33:50.480
have language that would protect their
employees, that

00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:52.000
would so that AI could be used to

00:33:52.000 --> 00:33:54.800
augment, not replace work being done by
their

00:33:55.440 --> 00:33:58.880
by employees represented by the AFGE.
Their

00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:01.920
proposal goes beyond that. They want to
seek,

00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:04.720
they want unions to have a role in

00:34:04.720 --> 00:34:08.000
shaping the policies created by the
federal

00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:10.480
agencies on how to govern AI, which is

00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:12.400
something I've already pointed out, the
federal government

00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.760
has no legal authority to do. And it's

00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:18.640
not just government actors. So the uh

00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:20.080
GLAD, the

00:34:21.040 --> 00:34:24.400
gay and lesbian alliance against
defamation, they're

00:34:24.400 --> 00:34:27.600
getting into the game. Uh they uh

00:34:27.680 --> 00:34:29.920
uh want a the

00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:34.000
framework that uh would that the AI
companies

00:34:34.080 --> 00:34:37.040
should build a collaborative partnership
with the

00:34:37.040 --> 00:34:40.320
LGBTQ plus activist communities. In

00:34:40.320 --> 00:34:43.360
other words, GLAAD wants AI to

00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.640
promote lesbian, gay, bisexual,
transgender,

00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.680
all that alphabet soup of sexual
perversion.

00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:52.560
Do you think if they have a say

00:34:52.560 --> 00:34:55.680
in this, that uh say someone with maybe

00:34:55.680 --> 00:34:58.800
a religious background against transgender
against uh uh

00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.840
uh homosexuality might be

00:35:02.160 --> 00:35:05.440
treated differently? Or that somebody that
has,

00:35:05.520 --> 00:35:07.760
oh, oh, I don't know, taken a biology

00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:09.840
class and understands that there are two
genders

00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:11.680
and you don't and they don't change,
they're

00:35:11.760 --> 00:35:14.400
established a conception. Do you think
they would

00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:14.560
be

00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:18.560
not be not referred to, would be

00:35:18.560 --> 00:35:20.880
pushed down by AI? They'd be ignored and

00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.080
marginalized by AI, pretending that that
those truths

00:35:24.080 --> 00:35:26.240
are not real? Do you think that might

00:35:26.240 --> 00:35:28.960
just happen if they get their position
that

00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:32.400
that ideas not promoted by GLAAD would be

00:35:32.720 --> 00:35:35.600
censored based on by

00:35:35.600 --> 00:35:38.800
AI? I think that's quite a possibility.

00:35:39.680 --> 00:35:42.720
So, what happens when we put government
regulation

00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:46.240
that's manipulated by political agendas?

00:35:46.400 --> 00:35:49.280
Suddenly it's no longer freedom of speech,
it's

00:35:49.280 --> 00:35:51.840
political correctness. Run wild.

00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:56.160
That's something that should be
concerning. Now I

00:35:56.160 --> 00:35:57.840
have a break uh break coming up, and

00:35:57.840 --> 00:35:59.680
uh after that, I want to get to

00:36:00.560 --> 00:36:02.880
this all the the the the looking at

00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:05.120
the core of the hysteria and what's wrong

00:36:05.120 --> 00:36:07.600
there. Before the go the before I take

00:36:07.600 --> 00:36:09.360
this break, though, you know, I wrong you

00:36:09.600 --> 00:36:11.920
a lot of these ideas are being promoted

00:36:11.920 --> 00:36:14.560
by these other organizations, and they're
getting their

00:36:14.560 --> 00:36:17.920
funding from you, not directly.

00:36:18.080 --> 00:36:20.240
You're doing business with companies that
are promoting

00:36:20.240 --> 00:36:22.560
these agendas. This this, you know, let's
use

00:36:22.560 --> 00:36:24.800
AI to censor, let's use AI to control,

00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:28.000
let's use AI to manipulate, let's
regulate, let's

00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:31.360
put AI under political control rather

00:36:31.360 --> 00:36:33.840
than the control of the people.

00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:36.960
You're buying from companies their their
products and

00:36:36.960 --> 00:36:38.800
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Welcome back, everybody. American Jeffrey.
Join the Constitution

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Study. Today we're going to talk about
artificial

00:41:02.080 --> 00:41:05.360
intelligence hysteria. The absolute
hysteria coming on. You

00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.840
know, we're all gonna die. It's the
terminator.

00:41:08.240 --> 00:41:11.520
And um, well, what's behind all of

00:41:11.520 --> 00:41:13.360
this? Now, a couple things we want to

00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:14.720
look at. First, I want to look at

00:41:14.720 --> 00:41:16.800
Flock, all right? The automatic license
plate region,

00:41:17.040 --> 00:41:20.080
Flock Safety. Uh, they are the largest
manufacturer

00:41:20.080 --> 00:41:23.360
of these ALPRs. And uh, it's interesting
because

00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:26.800
the West Virginia legislature has been

00:41:26.800 --> 00:41:29.920
asking Flock for information, claiming

00:41:30.160 --> 00:41:32.640
or accusing the firm of a history of

00:41:32.640 --> 00:41:36.080
providing inaccurate information to uh
state and

00:41:36.080 --> 00:41:38.720
local governments. Now, I want to point
something

00:41:38.720 --> 00:41:41.600
out here, right? This is the legislature
of

00:41:41.680 --> 00:41:44.800
Wage Virginia is blaming Flock for what I

00:41:44.800 --> 00:41:47.600
believe is actually a failure of

00:41:48.720 --> 00:41:52.080
the actual government entities they're
talking about.

00:41:52.560 --> 00:41:55.120
Now, a lot of the discussion came around

00:41:55.200 --> 00:41:58.480
what's called two-factor authentication.
Uh, you've probably encountered

00:41:58.480 --> 00:41:59.760
this. This is when you know you log

00:41:59.760 --> 00:42:01.840
in with the username name and password,
and

00:42:01.840 --> 00:42:04.000
then they tech the company, the website
texts

00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:05.280
or emails you a code you have to

00:42:05.280 --> 00:42:08.080
put in. There are three factors of
authentication.

00:42:08.240 --> 00:42:11.360
There's who you are, what you have, and

00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:13.360
what you know. So who you are, that's

00:42:13.360 --> 00:42:15.600
biometrics, right? So when you use your
thumbprint

00:42:15.600 --> 00:42:17.120
or your face scan to get to your

00:42:17.120 --> 00:42:20.480
phone, that's who you are. What you have

00:42:20.480 --> 00:42:22.640
is the possession of the cell phone. And

00:42:22.640 --> 00:42:24.000
then what you know is things like your

00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:27.200
username and password. And two-factor
authentication is a

00:42:27.200 --> 00:42:30.480
very it's an upgraded security. I'm

00:42:30.640 --> 00:42:32.480
the and apparently what Flock did is they

00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.680
had it as the default but optional setting

00:42:35.680 --> 00:42:38.320
for accessing the account. They've
recently made it

00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.280
mandatory uh for law enforcement,
according to a

00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:44.000
letter they they sent. But what I find

00:42:44.000 --> 00:42:47.440
interesting is Flock claims they've never
been hacked.

00:42:47.520 --> 00:42:49.680
I don't know that for sure. Uh, they

00:42:49.840 --> 00:42:52.800
claim they've never had data sharing
requests come

00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.760
in from a federal agency. Not sure I've

00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.960
yet seen some some proof of that. Um,

00:42:59.200 --> 00:43:02.080
they did say they had some limited pilots

00:43:02.080 --> 00:43:05.200
with the customs and border protection and
homeland

00:43:05.200 --> 00:43:08.320
security investigations, but they've not
opened their

00:43:08.640 --> 00:43:11.440
data to everybody else. That's that's
important

00:43:12.240 --> 00:43:14.560
because data security and access is one of

00:43:14.560 --> 00:43:17.280
my big concerns about all of these
systems.

00:43:17.680 --> 00:43:19.280
But they also went into what they called

00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.640
accuracy and false positive rates. Now,
again,

00:43:23.120 --> 00:43:24.240
yes, it the

00:43:25.120 --> 00:43:28.480
license plate readers, facial these are
tools,

00:43:29.040 --> 00:43:32.400
right? This is not evidence, this is not

00:43:32.400 --> 00:43:35.040
probable cause. If you come up on a

00:43:35.040 --> 00:43:38.320
search list, that is an investigative
tool,

00:43:38.480 --> 00:43:40.880
it is not probable cause,

00:43:41.680 --> 00:43:44.480
right? So when they talk about these these

00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:47.600
false positives, well, yeah, any system is
going

00:43:47.600 --> 00:43:49.280
to have a false positive. The same way

00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:50.720
you could have, you know, you could show

00:43:50.720 --> 00:43:53.120
a photo array to a human being who

00:43:53.120 --> 00:43:55.200
may point out the wrong person. Their
memories

00:43:55.200 --> 00:43:58.560
are are are faulty. So um to me,

00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:01.520
that's not a problem with Flock. That's a

00:44:01.520 --> 00:44:03.280
problem with the law enforcement officers
who say,

00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:05.280
well, Flock said so, you must be the

00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.480
guy, and ignores the investigative part of
the

00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.440
process. That to me is the bigger concern.

00:44:12.000 --> 00:44:13.440
But there's more.

00:44:14.640 --> 00:44:16.960
So this I I think that this West

00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:20.080
Virginia legislation is is really trying
to point

00:44:20.080 --> 00:44:22.320
the finger at Flock for really is problems

00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:23.920
in their own law enforcement. And I
believe

00:44:24.000 --> 00:44:27.040
I've seen that in states across the
country.

00:44:27.440 --> 00:44:30.800
But now there's a patent um that Flock

00:44:31.120 --> 00:44:34.320
Safety has that exposes something

00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.760
possibly far worse than what they're
already accused

00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:40.560
of doing. You see, the U.S. Patent and

00:44:40.560 --> 00:44:43.280
Trademark Office has granted Flock a
patent for

00:44:43.280 --> 00:44:46.480
what they call system and method for
object-based

00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:49.280
query of video content captured by dynamic

00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:52.880
surveillance network. Okay, let's take all

00:44:52.880 --> 00:44:54.960
the techie weenie mumbo jump out of the

00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:57.760
way. What does this mean? Flock has been

00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.960
given a patent to find objects

00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:04.160
on video content captured by what they
refer

00:45:04.160 --> 00:45:07.440
to as a dynamic surveillance system. Now,
object

00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:09.360
detection is something that's been part of
video

00:45:09.520 --> 00:45:11.520
for years. I've I've known it for over

00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:14.720
for probably got a decade. I've known
security

00:45:14.720 --> 00:45:17.360
systems that do object detection, right?
But now

00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:19.600
they're saying I want to query it. It's

00:45:19.680 --> 00:45:21.360
it's it that's not too new. It's the

00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:24.560
question is is there a dynamic
surveillance network?

00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.760
Now, according to Flock's own frequently
asked questions,

00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:31.200
it's not a live tracking system. Um,

00:45:31.440 --> 00:45:34.640
but it's it's it's looking for uh

00:45:35.200 --> 00:45:38.640
what they refer to as standalone vehicle
event.

00:45:39.760 --> 00:45:41.520
Now, according to the patent, what they
what

00:45:41.600 --> 00:45:43.760
Flock wants to do is not is weave

00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:46.640
together not only their own surveillance
cameras,

00:45:47.040 --> 00:45:50.320
but other cameras that are on other

00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:53.680
networks. So, say you've got a a

00:45:53.680 --> 00:45:56.720
uh uh a grocery store, a convenience
store,

00:45:56.800 --> 00:45:58.960
or a gated community that has a camera

00:45:58.960 --> 00:46:02.400
that uses a cloud service, or

00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:04.560
maybe you have one of those ring
doorbells,

00:46:04.640 --> 00:46:07.200
you know, the video doorbells, they want
to

00:46:07.200 --> 00:46:09.760
be able to weave that into their search

00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.960
algorithms so that they can pick up, you

00:46:12.960 --> 00:46:15.600
know, someone that drove by your home.

00:46:16.160 --> 00:46:18.880
Now, did you authorize them to go
searching

00:46:18.880 --> 00:46:21.360
your footage? If they have a deal with

00:46:21.520 --> 00:46:24.400
ring, they don't need your authorization.
You've put

00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.840
that data in ring's control. That's why,

00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:29.760
ladies and gentlemen, I refuse to put one

00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:31.680
of these cameras. I don't put these, I'm

00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:33.520
I'm looking at the idea of putting a

00:46:33.520 --> 00:46:36.640
security camera on my in my home.

00:46:36.960 --> 00:46:39.280
I don't need the security, I'm not seeing

00:46:39.280 --> 00:46:40.800
a security issues where I live in the

00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.040
middle of nowhere, it's not really a
problem.

00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:45.200
But again, I want to be prepared for

00:46:45.200 --> 00:46:47.600
what maybe. But that data is not going

00:46:47.600 --> 00:46:49.440
into the cloud. That's going to be private

00:46:49.440 --> 00:46:52.320
data because what I understand, if I
understand

00:46:52.320 --> 00:46:55.360
the story correctly, Flock

00:46:55.520 --> 00:46:57.840
wants to be able to identify things on

00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.120
other people's technology that can then be

00:47:01.120 --> 00:47:04.000
used to track them. Now, again, they say

00:47:04.000 --> 00:47:05.840
it's not real time,

00:47:07.520 --> 00:47:10.880
but based on what they say

00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:13.840
they're not live tracking. Really, I'm not
sure

00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:16.560
that maybe they don't do it yet. I

00:47:16.560 --> 00:47:18.800
don't know of anything that prevents it.

00:47:19.920 --> 00:47:22.240
But if uh again, based on the article

00:47:22.480 --> 00:47:24.720
saying the the idea is, well, they can

00:47:24.720 --> 00:47:27.120
look at a video footage, they can identify

00:47:27.120 --> 00:47:29.600
an object and say, ooh, that's a human

00:47:29.600 --> 00:47:31.520
being. Then they want to be able to

00:47:31.520 --> 00:47:33.520
go further and say, well, uh, is it

00:47:33.520 --> 00:47:36.480
male or female? What's their race? Uh, are

00:47:36.560 --> 00:47:39.440
there other identifying information that
they can refine?

00:47:39.520 --> 00:47:41.840
So that's not just license plate readers.
You're

00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:43.760
walking down the street by your neighbors
who

00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:45.760
happen to have cameras that may possibly
be

00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.120
accessed by the system, you're being
tracked.

00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.800
And that, ladies and gentlemen, should be
a

00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.920
concern. It's one thing to collect the
data,

00:47:56.080 --> 00:47:59.520
it's another thing for them to analyze the

00:47:59.520 --> 00:48:02.960
data without a warrant. Especially then,

00:48:03.200 --> 00:48:04.560
you know, they're according to some of the

00:48:04.560 --> 00:48:06.160
reports, they're actually getting down to
whether or

00:48:06.160 --> 00:48:08.080
not you're wearing a jacket, what are you

00:48:08.080 --> 00:48:11.120
wearing pants, shorts? They're talking
about a

00:48:11.120 --> 00:48:14.320
fully uh a full network surveillance

00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:14.640
system

00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:18.400
and who's going to control access to that

00:48:18.400 --> 00:48:20.640
data? Because if it's using your ring
camera,

00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:21.760
it's not you.

00:48:22.880 --> 00:48:25.120
That should be a concern.

00:48:26.240 --> 00:48:29.600
Because we've already seen examples of law
enforcement

00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:33.280
using these types of systems, these
surveillance systems,

00:48:33.600 --> 00:48:36.160
for personal reasons to track a loved one

00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:40.080
or to uh cyber stalk

00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:43.840
a potential love interest. Right? It that
people

00:48:43.840 --> 00:48:47.040
have already been arrested for that. Now
they

00:48:47.040 --> 00:48:48.640
want to put it in one system. Those

00:48:48.640 --> 00:48:51.440
are the concerns. Again, it's data access,
data

00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:54.240
integrity, and how those searches are

00:48:54.240 --> 00:48:57.600
authorized and what happens when people
access

00:48:57.600 --> 00:49:00.560
it without authorization. So again, my

00:49:00.560 --> 00:49:03.120
concern is less the person who has a

00:49:03.120 --> 00:49:06.320
ring doorbell camera or the the camera on

00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:09.280
the light pole on the street. I'm not

00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:11.600
overly thrilled with them, but I
understand the

00:49:11.600 --> 00:49:13.040
logic behind them.

00:49:14.160 --> 00:49:16.960
And those lot that logic has to come

00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:20.240
with protections of people's rights.
That's the part

00:49:20.240 --> 00:49:22.240
where we have a problem, and that to

00:49:22.240 --> 00:49:23.840
me is not what West Virginia is looking

00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:26.720
at. They're looking at we our law
enforcement

00:49:26.960 --> 00:49:28.960
screwed up. Now we want to blame Flock.

00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:31.200
But I want to come back to this

00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:34.800
hysteria that's being generated about

00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:37.680
AI in general. And again, it

00:49:37.680 --> 00:49:41.120
gets even worse. Because

00:49:41.200 --> 00:49:43.600
once again, it's humans, not

00:49:43.760 --> 00:49:46.880
technology, that are using these

00:49:47.200 --> 00:49:50.480
systems to scare us into compliance.

00:49:50.720 --> 00:49:52.720
Do you remember the hacking incidents
about, you

00:49:52.720 --> 00:49:54.640
know, oh my god, you've heard about
Hugging

00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:57.840
Face, right? Uh, this this open source

00:49:57.840 --> 00:50:01.280
platform that uh shares uh AI models,

00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:04.720
these are systems. They announced back in
January,

00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:06.880
in J in July, sorry, that they had

00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:09.120
been hacked by AI agents. That, you know,

00:50:09.280 --> 00:50:10.720
oh my god, this has been exposed. It's

00:50:10.720 --> 00:50:12.880
been hacked, it's been a coordinated
attack by

00:50:12.880 --> 00:50:15.280
an AI on Hugging Face.

00:50:16.560 --> 00:50:20.000
And then just five days later, OpenAI
announced

00:50:20.000 --> 00:50:22.960
that one of their JAT GPT models um

00:50:23.120 --> 00:50:25.600
quote unquote got it broke out of the

00:50:25.600 --> 00:50:28.320
sandbox and the and

00:50:28.320 --> 00:50:31.200
attacked Hugging Face to find answers to a

00:50:31.200 --> 00:50:33.680
test it was taking. Now, of course, this

00:50:33.680 --> 00:50:35.600
has been oh my god, see, it's artificial

00:50:35.600 --> 00:50:38.720
intelligence, it's super intelligence.
It's decided, it's broken

00:50:38.720 --> 00:50:40.320
out of its containment, it's gone after it

00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:42.880
other things. This is proof that the AI

00:50:42.880 --> 00:50:44.000
is gonna kill us all.

00:50:45.600 --> 00:50:48.480
Well, is that really what happened?

00:50:49.760 --> 00:50:53.200
Uh uh Anabi Kumar, who's co-founder of
Voice

00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:55.920
AI, put it this way you see, one

00:50:56.000 --> 00:50:58.240
man's the model escaped the sandbox, is
another

00:50:58.240 --> 00:51:00.720
man's, you failed to build the sandbox
correctly.

00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:05.120
Meaning, right, if you uh uh

00:51:05.200 --> 00:51:07.440
uh let's say you've got a group of

00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:09.680
puppies and you put them, you make a

00:51:09.680 --> 00:51:11.600
little fence pen for them so they don't

00:51:11.600 --> 00:51:13.200
get out of the house, and you put

00:51:13.200 --> 00:51:15.920
the puppies in the pen, but you don't

00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.680
build the pen very well, right? You leave

00:51:17.680 --> 00:51:19.600
an opening or it's easy to knock over.

00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:21.840
It's not so much the puppies escaped, it's

00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:24.240
that you didn't build their their pen
properly.

00:51:24.640 --> 00:51:27.280
And that's what he's describing at
happened at

00:51:27.280 --> 00:51:30.080
uh uh uh OpenAI. Their

00:51:30.080 --> 00:51:33.440
quote-unquote sandbox was not fenced off
properly.

00:51:34.560 --> 00:51:37.360
In other words, a human being

00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:41.040
set up a system and didn't secure it

00:51:41.040 --> 00:51:41.760
properly.

00:51:42.720 --> 00:51:45.120
See, I can you can let's say think

00:51:45.120 --> 00:51:46.720
of it as your home, right? That's a

00:51:46.720 --> 00:51:49.600
sandbox is just an area of a network,

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:52.560
a group of systems that are supposed to

00:51:52.560 --> 00:51:55.440
be set aside that that cannot go

00:51:55.440 --> 00:51:58.880
outside, right? That's a playground. It's
that's

00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:00.800
what it gets named. It's where you play

00:52:00.800 --> 00:52:03.840
and you experiment without worrying about
contaminating other

00:52:03.840 --> 00:52:06.160
systems. It's kind of like imagine your
house,

00:52:06.240 --> 00:52:07.920
right? You have a house. I can put

00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:10.320
security on your house, I can put in

00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:13.040
locks, I can put in deadbolts, I can

00:52:13.040 --> 00:52:15.600
put in security alarms, I can put in

00:52:15.600 --> 00:52:18.640
video surveillance. But if you don't lock
the

00:52:18.640 --> 00:52:21.520
door and arm the alarm system, none of

00:52:21.520 --> 00:52:24.560
that work's gonna make any difference. So
now

00:52:24.560 --> 00:52:28.000
we're seeing that this whole hysteria
around hugging

00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:31.200
face was not that AI suddenly got super

00:52:31.200 --> 00:52:34.160
intelligent and broke containment. It's
that the people

00:52:34.160 --> 00:52:37.120
that actually wrote the made the
containment system

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didn't do a very good job.

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And having worked in data centers and
having

00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:44.960
to deal with certain levels of network
security,

00:52:45.120 --> 00:52:47.040
I could see how this could happen. It's

00:52:47.040 --> 00:52:49.920
not uh uh you know, security is something

00:52:49.920 --> 00:52:51.440
where you got to be right all the

00:52:51.440 --> 00:52:53.280
time and the other side has to be

00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:56.480
right once. But again, it looks more like

00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:59.040
this hugging face is not it has been

00:52:59.040 --> 00:53:01.360
a simple, oops, we left the barn door

00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:03.280
open and the horse got out, but it's

00:53:03.280 --> 00:53:05.600
being hyped into hysteria. Oh my god,
we're

00:53:05.600 --> 00:53:08.720
all gonna die because artificial
intelligence figured out

00:53:08.720 --> 00:53:10.320
how to get through the barn door that

00:53:10.320 --> 00:53:13.760
was left open. Now, we

00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:16.960
have uh AI companies that are

00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:19.120
using this to help saying, well, we need

00:53:19.120 --> 00:53:20.880
to be part of the of developing the

00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:24.160
regulation so that we can protect
ourselves.

00:53:25.040 --> 00:53:26.560
See, we need to be able to protect

00:53:26.560 --> 00:53:29.200
ourselves because, well, we don't want the
competition.

00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:31.920
And politicians are using it, seeing we
need

00:53:31.920 --> 00:53:33.920
to regulate this because, well,

00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:36.720
if we're not, we're all gonna die.

00:53:37.840 --> 00:53:40.160
When what truly happened is listen,
someone built

00:53:40.160 --> 00:53:43.120
a network that had an egress point they

00:53:43.120 --> 00:53:46.080
hadn't thought of. And that's all that
happened.

00:53:46.560 --> 00:53:49.840
They left a door unlocked, metaphorically
speaking.

00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:52.080
And they're using that to get you to

00:53:52.080 --> 00:53:54.800
give up all of your rights. Why? Well,

00:53:54.880 --> 00:53:58.240
because they're promoting this idea. Now,
is

00:53:58.240 --> 00:54:01.520
it possible that one day artificial
intelligence will

00:54:01.520 --> 00:54:03.200
be a threat to human life?

00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.600
Anything's possible. Is it likely?

00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:10.640
No. Are we anywhere near that? No.

00:54:11.280 --> 00:54:13.600
No, we're more likely to use AI to

00:54:13.600 --> 00:54:15.760
give us an excuse to exterminate our own

00:54:15.760 --> 00:54:19.200
lives, to exterminate our own rights, to

00:54:19.200 --> 00:54:22.160
exterminate everything that makes you
free.

00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:25.760
My fear is not AI. My fear is

00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:29.200
the people using AI to manipulate you, to

00:54:29.200 --> 00:54:32.000
get you to turn over control to others,

00:54:32.640 --> 00:54:35.280
and and to uh convince you to do

00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:37.840
something that will take away your rights
simply

00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:38.160
because

00:54:39.200 --> 00:54:42.320
someone's giving you fear-mongering.
Because once you get

00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.360
people afraid, it's easier to manipulate
them. And

00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:46.640
that's what I see happening.

00:54:47.680 --> 00:54:49.280
Now, before I go, you know, I want

00:54:49.280 --> 00:54:51.680
to remind you we don't use AI here

00:54:51.680 --> 00:54:53.120
at the Constitution. None of our studies
are

00:54:53.120 --> 00:54:54.800
AI based. We do all of our own

00:54:54.800 --> 00:54:56.400
research and all of our own writing, and

00:54:56.400 --> 00:54:58.000
we do all of our own study. And

00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.000
if you're interested in getting deep into
the

00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.880
Constitution, I create a program called
the Patriots

00:55:03.040 --> 00:55:06.240
Program. Find out more at
constitutionstudy.com slash

00:55:06.240 --> 00:55:08.720
patriots. It's people who want to get
educated,

00:55:08.960 --> 00:55:11.840
deeply educated on the Constitution, that
want to

00:55:11.840 --> 00:55:13.840
communicate with other groups. We're not
trying to

00:55:13.840 --> 00:55:15.680
replace other groups, we're trying to
provide them

00:55:15.680 --> 00:55:17.760
tools and services so that they can do

00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.240
their job better. Most of all, we want

00:55:20.240 --> 00:55:22.720
to present Minutemen, men and women ready
to

00:55:22.720 --> 00:55:24.960
come to the aid, to take the skills

00:55:24.960 --> 00:55:28.400
they've developed and help others. If that

00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:31.280
sounds interesting, the Patriots program
may be for

00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:33.920
you. It's not for everybody, it's
invitation only.

00:55:34.240 --> 00:55:35.440
So the first thing you have to do

00:55:35.440 --> 00:55:38.080
is take the boot camp. You do that

00:55:38.080 --> 00:55:41.360
by going to Constitutionstudy.comslash
patriots. You'll find it

00:55:41.360 --> 00:55:44.320
on that description page. Once you've
completed it

00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:45.760
and pass the test at the end, I

00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:48.160
do ask you to uh to sign an

00:55:48.160 --> 00:55:50.240
oath that we're going to use our powers

00:55:50.240 --> 00:55:52.960
for good, not evil. And then you'll
receive

00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:54.640
an invitation. Then you get to decide
whether

00:55:54.640 --> 00:55:56.320
or not you want to join us. You

00:55:56.320 --> 00:55:58.480
can find all this at the website,
Constitution

00:55:58.560 --> 00:56:01.600
Study.comslash patriots. And if you have
any questions,

00:56:01.680 --> 00:56:04.160
you can ask me there as well. Now,

00:56:04.240 --> 00:56:05.840
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